Net-Coat Yellow-Plated. Another option is to drill a 17mm hole down into the floor, hitting a joist if possible and up into the newel then screw a 19mm length of stud down into the floor then screw the newel down onto it. 012mm/m/deg C, so I expect chipboard is in a similar range, and hence chipboard. 2x2 would be ok for that area, 4x2 is overkill. Thread by: Durk, Jul 15, 2021, 6 replies, in forum: Builders' Talk. also helps stop squeaking (so do mousetraps). Choose from a wide range of plywood, MDF, OSB and chipboard for all of your construction projects. . goldenboy Super Member. Structurally it's not necessary, the chipboard is designed to carry itself but it can creak and squeak after a while. Andrew Morris Member. I ve heard a ton of stories regarding squeaky floors after chipboard flooring has been layed and I want to do all I can to prevent this. Simple and cost effective, it can be laid underneath various floor types and is ideal for smaller spaces. With packs of engineered wood flooring large enough to cover areas up to 1. I've been told I don't need to ensure the short edge joins are on the joist as the glued edge is probably stronger than the board, is this billy-bulls**t or true. nigel Guest. Jord86 Screwfix Select. Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by polybear, Dec 17, 2006. Shellac-based primer, sealer and stain killer. Product Type. I have decided to remove the 'chicken-feed' flooring and re-do with solid wood T&G Planks. 10 screws, but Screwfix only seem to supply up to no. It's a short piece of usually 1 1/2"or 2" thickness timber cut and fixed to provide stiffening, Fixing points, reinforcement, strength, support etc. I'd fix at 150 centres as you would do with standard chipboard flooring. Take up the chipboard flooring, ensure there are plenty of noggins between the joists and lay 18mm or 25mm T&G WBP plywood. Includes TX20 bit. Lay 9mm sp101 ply, then 10mm or. The place is currently having a makeover and new carpeting will be fitted in a few weeks time. 99 Inc Vat. this stops squeek noise and promotes a more solid job. Chipboard floor / soundproofing advice. Size Description. Designed for sealing around timber, laminates and other flooring applications. Everywhere that I have read online seems to suggest that underlay for engineered wood flooring is necessary for all floating installations including over chipboard sub-floors. Fix down with either ring shank 75mm nails. £10. Most likely need to lay timber guide rails tapered from 75mm down to a few mm's, once screed has dried, these can be removed & channels filled in with screed. £10. SKU: 36HB001. so 18mm x 3, for your case is 54, (approximatly 50MM or good old 2" wood screws. £. Manthorpe GL260 Push-Up Loft Access Door White 562mm x 562mm (61794) (51) compare. rogerk101, Jan 25, 2023. FREE Click & Collect within 30 minutes. Suitable for use on interior surfaces and spot priming of exterior surfaces. View product details. Hi, i have a job to do it was water damage in a old upstairs flat which has ruined the floors, The floor is made up of chipboard flooring, a fire board of some kind, a rockwool type insulation under that hard tell exactly as what i have pulled up is just mush and under all that is a dpc and the original floorboards underneath which are fineBased on that theory, what's the difference to having a tiled floor then? If waters getting through then the problem isn't the subfloor, just make sure that it's in good solid nick before you lay over the top. Celotex etc. and due to the longevity required something with a passivated finish would be good. Click-Lock. Delivery. 2. I will be fixing skirting after the floor is laid and will be leaving a 10-15mm expansion gap all the way round. 20 mm. If however the rip ended up at 100mm for example, it would. But I would still like to seal the chipboard before laying the vinyl planks, especially under the sink and the appliances. Write a review. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > Chipboard T&G flooring removal around existing pipes. 5 Ltr. The P5 Tongue and Groove Chipboard Flooring is a durable, high-density moisture-resistant P5 grade chipboard flooring with tongue and groove design for easy installation. For it to be thermally effective, mineral wool insulation needs to be at the government recommended depth of 270mm. Chipboard is usually 18 or 22mm for Flooring 3mm Hardboard sometimes used to create a flat surface and to seal the Floor to prevent draughts/dirt coming up. Click & Collect. what i did was set circular saw to 17mm and cut through floor as close to walls as i could. For chipboard flooring. JustPhil Active Member. Double-Countersunk Head for Reduced Shear. As well screwing the boards to the joists and gluing the tongues with PVA I ve heard an idea, as an extra measure, of running a. The chipboard floor undulates excessively, in places out by approx 1/2" over 3' along the joists and forms dips between them, also joist to joist is slightly out. Everywhere I wanted access as well as lifting the boards, I had to hack through the old bitumen impregnated chipboard roof panel as well. Add to Cart. Putting a new chipboard floor in our Utility. When it comes to putting the floor back down make sure you have left the nails in the joists- most of them will have a small circle of the flooring around them and just lay board on top so it doesn't leave any holes. Make sure that the screws have at least 18mm of unthreaded shaft so they can pull the ply down to the chipboard. Joist diameter and span under wall is 40mm x 170mm , 450mm centres, the span of joists is 2. Cracking noises from floors and ceiling. just one at the centre of the board will suffice. com. otherwise a 1mm gap will be fine as linear expansion of the ply will be checked by all those screws. There was a water leak over 5 years ago which has left the chipboard floor bowed by as much as 6mm where the boards join. the joint must always be over a joist or nogged. fixing ply straight to joists needs a screw 2. Recently tiles are coming loose and grout has cracked around most. 99 Price. Saved to Project List. NJ Rider, Feb 4, 2023. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Tilers' Talk > Tiling over chipboard floor. There can be many uses for chipboard screws, particularly in wood projects such as furniture assembly, shelving, flooring, etc. My current ideas are. Never used these before but saw a video of a guy bedding them on adhesive just like the tiles, then screwing them down. Shim Wedge Strips. 5 times thickness of sub floor i. Just screw any creaky/loose floorboards down, if any are badly damaged, replace them. End the sheets around 1cm from the walls, and fit the skirting boards down snugly on top to hold it down. Goldscrew PZ Double-Countersunk Self-Tapping Multipurpose Screws 3. Then at the other side of the room set the string line again at the same height above floor level. Vin, May 16, 2020. The laminate floor comes with its own underlay. Add a new look to your home with our range of engineered wood flooring at Wickes today. pci nanolight will stick direct to chipboard without. Anyone still 'sinking' the screws in chipboard will have problems. Screwfix customers rate this product 4. the floor is quite solid and I can not feel any major movment from the flooring, (there is 1 or 2 spots where it does flex but i intend to screw this down better than it is at present to fix this. Immediately Walkable. andy48 Screwfix Select. Today I’ve taken up the carpet to have a closer look. I went a little bit rogue after being driven stir crazy and started tiling the bathroom floor today. So ive decided against this solution. if you use a circular saw set the blade depth correctly and you won’t hit pipes or cables. The depth seems to be around 22mm. 5mm minimum screw length. The Chipboard Flooring Boards for use to overlay existing flooring or as a loft board for storage. Having opted for a timber suspended floor (easier to hide cables etc) I have laid the joists and am about to start fixing T&G chipboard. 1. Wickes flooring is laid with the label on top (there is some printing showing which way up as well if the label is missing). The distances between the joists vary. com. #6. Either get a better circular saw, leave the hatch to the plumber/spark, or drill a series of holes in a line so you can slip a handsaw through and cut at a very low angle so the blade hardly goes through the underside. You would of course need to cut out a section of chipboard flooring in bedroom . as jord said this is the correct way and how building control insist it should be done, as it ties the floor joists together adding stability, you would only need expansion on floating floors, if you added another acoustically insulated chipboard floor ontop if the structural chipboard. (18 products) Underfloor heating mats deliver low cost, energy efficient heating. Depends on how badly damaged they are of course, but i don't think it's worth it especially if you're carpeting. Primer Paints. Showing 8 of 12 products. For Cement Based Mixes. - 10%. #13. Having opted for a timber suspended floor (easier to hide cables etc) I have laid the joists and am about to start fixing T&G chipboard. Including brands like CaberBoard and SterlingZero OSB in a range of sizes and thicknesses, our chipboard & OSB is suitable. Jord86 Screwfix Select. 5mm x 60mm 300 Pack at Screwfix. structural 18 mm ply is fine ,you may have to add some timber noggins to offer further support at edges where butting up to chipboard on. yep the old ways have nearly gone. 2x2 would be ok for that area, 4x2 is overkill. Look for key features such as movement type, brake type and strength to find the. There is 1 row of strutting at the center of the span. By where the sink was there has Obviously been a leak over the years which Has made the chipboard like a sponge! I am going to cut this out with a circular saw set to the depth of the boards and replace but not sure of how far I need to go. Perfectly happy with it! I-Man, Oct 6, 2021. I would over board with 15mm, 12mm is barely acceptable. john i did something like this the other week. Small Head Fixes Flush for an Almost Hidden Finish. One Size. It was nailed down and I added 40mm screws when I moved in (all I had under lockdown). Various options available including those with added security of a key or code lock function. jizzard_of_oz, Mar 17, 2008. 18mm x 2440mm x 1220mm Marine Plywood BS1088. #5. On pulling up and removing the carpet a number of the original chipboard floorboards are water damaged and will need replacing. 04 mm/m/deg C which equates to 3-4mm across a 5m room with a temperature range of 20 degrees - easy to achieve between winter and summer with the sun on the floor! - MDF is more stable @ around 0. Easy to Tool. goldenboy, Mar 3, 2010. #2. Got to be careful not to cut lower than chipboard depth to cut joists or pipes, wires, etc. However i do not accept any. 22 chipboard is used as the stock flooring on most jobs without any problems the boards with a green tint to them are the best as these are water resistant to a certain. 90 day returns. Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by Tabs, Jan 24, 2021. Soudal Fix ALL Wall & Floor Hybrid Polymer Adhesive 2. It becomes flakey past the outer layer and would be a rough finish. 3 I've always found that it's always better to lift large sections of the stuff rather than pittle about with lifting small sections. Joel Drury likes this. Jason jasonb, Aug 29,. General Purpose. If the problem is across a wide area you could use thin plywood tacked over the top. Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by carly1979, Jun 11, 2008. Includes TX20 bit. #6. As Willy said, if you have to go underneath at anytime you are still going to have to cut the board somewhere as they are all interlocked and won't lift without making a cut. Supplied in a handy tub. 2mm x 55mm 200 Pack (49231) Zinc and blue-passivated and case-hardened. Order Araldite 2-Part Epoxy Adhesive Tubes Opaque 2 x 15ml at Screwfix. Trying to fix the creaking in upstairs chipboard floor, before new carpet laid on Tuesday. Screw and glue the floor down and it wont squeak at all. What will I prime the floor with?Screwfix Community Forum. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > Chipboard flooring. It’s a timber floor (t+g chipboard) so I’m going to put down the 6mm backer boards. Buy. There is a lip from the concrete floor to the wooden floor of approximately 10 to 15mm. I have been told to use 6mm ply with screwed down 6" centre's then a flexible adhesive - anyone got any advice on this - this house is around 17 years old Thanksnumber 4 New Member. You can get P5 water resistant grade chipboard if you were adamant you wanted something else, but I wouldn't worry personally. The floor level would ideally come up a bit too. I will leave 10mm expansion gap etc. Product code: 164516. Centring Tip Reduces Slip & Wandering. Buy Flooring at Screwfix. Volume. Replace with ply or chipboard. This should leave the flooring which goes under the wall fairly intact, and the wall supported. Double Catch. The top edge of the material is much denser than the rest of the board. £10. No Cooling Required. £13. Screwfix customers rate this product 4. 2. Tolley, Aug 15, 2005. e 62. Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by Eye Squared R, Aug 17, 2009. 5 or 3 times the thickness of the chipboard for length. on new buid when we lay a 22mm boards its standard to glue the joints and glue the joists that they are layed upon. We had a slow water leak behind the sink. The bathroom is fairly small 2m x 1. I will need to pull up a number of the other floorboards in order to reroute the waste pipes and water pipes anyway. The squeak can be caused by the boards rubbing against each other or rubbing against the joists, glue on the joists is sometimesd used at installation this helps as does replacing nails with screws [even ringshank nails cannot cope with the poor density of chipboard]. thatching. Some people recommend no. Order Bostik SBR Admixture White 5Ltr at Screwfix. Fill holes and cracks with ease, suitable for many applications. They are actually quite cheap now, probably the best place to get them no sis the website below. Glue is cheap enough. Choose one of those and it will do it’s job over the subfloor, under the finish floor. All our standard chipboard is from well-managed forests. £2. KIAB Super Member. I have done this with 22mm T&G chipboard flooring over 50mm celotex - cheaper than buying the celotex bonded stuff. jackelliott07, Dec 2, 2019. Flooring Chipboard. Sold & shipped by B&Q. It would be better if it was glued and then screwed to the chipboard and preferably the joists underneath. It’s 22mm P5 chipboard over 100mm PIR. Zinc-Plated & Yellow-Passivated. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute. Joists are at 600mm, T&G chipboard 22mm @ 600mmX3000mm. Castors. I should have levelled the floor joists when I had the opportunity. Just avoid the pipes! What floor is going over it? Carpet best for sound. 99 Inc Vat. 1) rout a slot along the cut edge (s) and glue in a strip of ply to act as a tongue, then rout a corresponding slot lengthwise along the board to fit at 90 degrees after having cut off the profile that it comes with. #4. £30. There is a wide range of sizes of chipboard screws; the smaller screws are mainly used for fastening hinges on cabinets and other types of furniture, while larger screws are used to join bigger pieces of wood on. #11. osb isnt suitable for direct exposure to the elements, its good stuff for shed floors and roofs though. £33. However in the 2 rooms which haven't yet had carpet fitted the smell is coming back. Einhell kwb A4 Extra Fine P120 Sanding Mesh. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > laying oak floor on chipboard. I got 2400mm x 600mm x 18mm T&G chipboards, so: 1. Multi-Head Countersinks Screw. Small Head Fixes Flush for an Almost Hidden Finish. 8. com. 150 mm. Multi-Head Countersinks Screw. Think the best thing now, is to over-board it, lapping joints, with 12mm ply, fixed down into the boards with 30mm screws (inclue some 50mm screws into the joists if you know where they are and you are satisfied no cables or pipes run there. Screws should be left flush or the barest amount under. Estwing used to make a good one, very ridged and strong and will take lots of abuse. £29. Sanding woodchip is not a great idea. make up a diluted solution of PVA - add 30% water - and keep brushing this well in to each board joint. Discussion in ' Builders' Talk ' started by Vijay80, Aug 2, 2019 . 25 Inc Vat. Spiral point, part thread and under-head ribs for self. Tolley, Aug 15, 2005. #14. 5. £5. Ideal for all types of flooring including softwood, fibreboard and hardwood. I think I'm tempted to ensure the joins are on the joists anyway. Belt and braces. . There will be no joists. You’ll find chipboard flooring available in 18mm or. 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The width including the tounge seems to be around 130mm. proper joiners etc. I never would, the integrity of the surface of chipboard is poor compared with most other materials. It will be rock solid, without any squeaks or creaks. Discussion in 'Tilers' Talk' started by sharp chisel, Mar 3, 2005. Water-Based Adhesive. 2. 49 Inc Vat. com. 5mm. Tongue and groove design for easy installation. all handed down through family generations. I can't think of a more suitable surface for tiling. Assess the current insulation and ventilation. 5 Boards 1. Chipboard flooring is c*ap. Fit and screw down, then when you need access, unscrew the boards and lift out. The spec of chipboard floors is normally poor for tiling on, there is normally movement. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that #2 is the case. Buy Loft Insulation at Screwfix. Click & collect in as little as 1 minute. Soudal Parquet Flooring Adhesive 1kg (425KV) compare. 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If you're up in Scotland they call them dwangs. £14. use 18mm ply or 22mm chipboard, support all edges and use tongue and groove for the strongest floor, glueing all joints. com. Gluing and screwing will give you a much more rigid floor and reduce flex. Had a bit of an emergency and need to replace my floors fast (and cheap). Click-Lock. The sub floor is chipboard. 22 chipboard is used as the stock flooring on most jobs without any problems the boards with a green tint to them are the best as these are water resistant to a certain. I live in a new-build, so the chipboard sounds the same as your newly laid. I will be laying the underlay (green square material) before laying the floor. Remove all the chipboard floor, basically. Read more. 66 rows. For use with high density fibre boards. stonemasons. Tiling onto Tongued and Grooved Chipboard Flooring. Hi all After some advice. Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by Dawsy, Nov 18, 2017. 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